02-21-2017, 02:32 PM. If the level is adequate, the problem is most likely with the hydraulic pump. _____ 2009 115hp E-TEC 1996 Astro 17SCX dwells Registered: 1299378331 Posts: 1 Posted 1299992318: Reply with . Latest: neil c. 5 minutes ago. Replaced the old gauge with a new Teleflex Amega Gauge. 1. Horse Power Ratings of 20, 25, 28, 30 and 35. First, disconnect the power Trim and Tilt Motor. Intermittent Yamaha F90 tilt & Trim. When I trim the motor up and down the needle on the gauge stays in the down position. It's easy to do, and most times just involves a good visual and a fluid level inspection. The throttle switch seems fine. And that means you will need to replace the actually rams in order to truly fix the problem. Re: power tilt and trim not working If the tap on the motor doesn't work.Disconnect trim up wire,the trim down wire,not shown as it is on the other side of the trim down solenoid,it will be green,and the ground.Connect a jumper from ground to battery ground.Use another jumper to connect either the blue or green to positive side of the battery . If it does trim down, the relay is confirmed bad. It should raise up at this time. POWER TILT TRIM Temporary "Down" Lockup All potential problems with the system may result from the manual release valve not being closed, or being partially closed, so make checking this . Red is line voltage from battery, Blue is the up motor lead. It's electro-hydraulic, meaning an electric pump moves hydraulic fluid upon command from the operator, tilting the thrust angle out or in. Look for chipped fluid valves or impact valves and replace them if needed. You simply can't beat a DB Electrical tilt trim motor for its combined value and performance. Leaking is not good. Step 2: Connect and short sending terminal. You will see a two wire plug with a green and blue wire. 1995 175 trim/tilt auto raising. . Along with the seals. Number one. But as soon as I released the switch, the trim motor continued to run in . ARCO OEM Replacement Tilt/Trim Motor Repair Kit - TR222. When you push the switch to trim up or tilt up, the voltage is sent to the coil through the blue wire and it energizes the solenoid. Unhook this plug and remove the two wires. Quick View. Thread starter Warpa; Start date 9 Oct 2010; 9 Oct 2010 #1 W. Warpa New member. Genuine MerCruiser Commander 3000 Trim Tilt Trailer 87-18286t34 18286t34. Check this FIRST, before messing around with any relays, fuses, or wiring. 1987 Merc 115HP I6 Parts Swap Powerhead Tilt Trim with 73-75 Merc 1500 I6 150HP W/O tilt. You should check your fuses for the blower and tilt trim while you are at it. I am new to this foum, and new to E-Tecs. Not sure which you have but the one with the reservoir on the side appears to be obsolete. The worst case is the motor is frozen, but that is less likely. and make sure the purple wire connector (single wire) and the blue wire connector two blue wires on one side of the connection are not corroded or loose. Brought to you by Barnacle Bill's Marine Supply. The switch on the engine housing seems to have lost any action----it is real loose when pressed. Using a jumper wire, apply 12 volts directly to the blue wire if your engine or drive unit is in the down position. Or the trim motor itself is dead. Go to the trim/tilt pump assy. Managing the tilt system properly will allow this to happen. The tilt/trim mechanism on my 99 Evinrude Ficht 225 will not operate in the up position. If running up to speed then with the engine trimmed down locate the trim relief valve. If the problem persists, install an O-ring kit in the cylinders. On the port side of the trim unit is the manual release valve # XXXXX open the valve 3-4 turns CCW raise the engine block the engine up. Comment. Tried the tilt/trim and got a faint clicking noise back towards the motor but the motor didn't budge. Search 0. Waited another 15 minutes and short fast beeps with the key fully turned and faint clicking with key turned half way trying tilt . You could hear the trim motor still running, but it would not advance up or back down. 06-29-2009, 10:03 PM. That should do it. Recently my trim tilt gauge quit working. 4. This is known as negative trim. How to Fix Tilt Trim Not Working. Last night I tried to run the trim up and down with the motor almost all the way down. Skip to Content. Issues with the tilt trim system on your boat can often be traced back to a faulty relay unit. If you have installed new relays and the trim/tilt pump motor still won't run, there is obviously a problem with the wiring from the sockets at the base of the relays. Tilt Trim Exchange. Mercruiser tilt and trim problems. Turned out to be a bad ground. Step 4: Check trim needle. Put one on pos and the other on a neg. Replace Relay. The trim motor ran but nothing happened. The motor should run. Please reply and let me know. Evinrude ETEC issues with trimming up or down? 09-09-2019, 09:40 PM. Hydraulic fluid from the electric pump is routed via lines and check valves to the actuator ram. Looks like you might need to replace the manifold assembly of your trim cylinder. An authorized Yamaha mechanic suggested the Relay Assembly (6H1-81950-00-00) might be faulty so I changed it with a new one and no . DB Electrical Trm0025 Power Tilt Trim Motor for Yamaha OUTBOARD 6h1-43880-02. i have become an expert on the subject in a very short time,,,by no choice of my own..nyway trace the two wires coming from the tilt trim motor,disconnect them and jump the direct to power ,blue to positive -green to negetive to trim up,then green to positive and blue to negitive for down.if that works then your trim motor is good.its either a I plugged in all wires (correct colors) and everything is working except the trim gauge response. October 2011 in Boating #1. If the problem persists, install a pump manifold. When did it last work and was anything done? Yes, tilt and trim are both in the same component on the engine, but they have different functions. There are two. Sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't. The actual motor always seems to work but even though the motor runs, nothing happens. The Yamaha Owner's Manual suggests you perform standard maintenance on your power tilt and trim after the first 20 hours, then every 100 hours or annually for the life of the motor. took it to a boat repair, and they disconnected the bullet connectors that run from the tilt motor, and placed the motor contacts on the postive wire from the battery and ground, and nothing happened. . How to Adjust Trim Gauge. Search; My account; 0 You have 0 items in your cart; My shopping cart. Fill reservoir and bleed (purge air from) the system. Press space bar to toggle menu. Reverse it and it should run the other way. The only reason it could make a difference is if your battery is kaput. If the trim/tilt does not work, and its motor neither runs nor hums, troubleshoot the problem by referring to TILT/TRIM RELAY TEST on p. 151. In this video I. Check the connections there first, make sure they are tight and clean. It improves fuel economy and overall performance. Your outboard's power trim and tilt unit changes the outboard's thrust angle during operation for maximum performance of both your outboard and your boat. they said the motor was bad. If not, remove and replace the coupling on the trim motor. Hi all, I recently bought and fully serviced/updated a 2013 Carolina Skiff DLV 198 with a 2012 DF115a. The two large terminals are Red and Blue. I was able to tilt the motor down no problem but when I went to trim up, it wouldnt move. If one is bad both will not work. Then it works fine unless it sits for a while again. The trim and tilt switch on the outboard is working perfectly. Had the same problem last fall and figured it was the relay. The other switch on the throttle ($55.) What Motors will the Integral Trim & Tilt work with? I could hear the electric motor running (slightly different sound than normal) but the motor didnt go anywhere. The trim pump forces fluid to the cylinders, or rams, to move the motor up or down for trimming and trailering. Make sure the connectors are not corroded, then plug it back in a test. If my 2005 Yamaha F90 sits for a couple of weeks the up tilt and trim won't work unless I start the engine. 1999 Optimax Trim Motor keeps turning on - PLEASE HELP. BRP told them they did it correctly. While turning the key all the way, nothing but short, fast beeps from the alarm. DF140 Power Tilt Switches not working. Agree its probably the switch on the football, when the trim won't work in either direction the common points are the ckt breaker, switch, or actuator. Take your main battery cables off and scrub the posts with a wire brush. How to test your tilt and trim pump. J. Reel spooling and Top shot recommendations. Cleaned the boat and tried again. If running too slow , check battery, connections, then motor brushes. Motors made from 1976 to 2004. I told him, was to disconnect the motor pan tilt switch and go from there. The tilting portion of the operation has to do more with trailering or getting the outboard out of the water. New guy, big tilt/trim problem-1986 mariner 90 hp i-6, tilt goes up and down, but will not hold. Tilt / Trim Motor for Johnson Evinrude Outboard Hydraulic tilt and trim systems rely on an electric motor to operate the small hydraulic pump below. I ended up using the manual release valve to lower the engine back down. I took the hot wire direct from battery to motors blue wire still only trims 1/3 up, it does the same thing without the jumper 1/3 way up. New to forum, I have a 1990, 40 hp Johnson motor and I am having problems with the tilt and trim.. Just bought the boat a couple of months back and the trim has been working ok, other than the cylinder leaks pretty bad at the top where the rod goes down into the cylinder cap.. Topic: Tilt-Trim Gauge Not Working: Smithsm: posted 05-18-2009 03:10 PM ET (US) . Trim refers to the angle that your propeller shaft is at relative to the boat. The engine will have to be in the up position to add fluid. I just redid some wiring and gauges on my 2002 F115. Always check the easiest solution of all, fill your trim oil! SCRIBE the sides of each one and the OD for a reference mark before removal. Open the hydraulic reservoir and check the fluid level if the engine tilts part of the way up . https://www.floridainshorefishingcharters.com/https://www.floridanearshorefishingcharters.com/https://www.mosquitolagoonsightfishing.com/http://www.drewcavan. The switch is the most common point of failure. $45.00 New. (7) 100% agree - Would recommend. All fuses were in working order. ARCO NEW Original Equipment Quality Replacement Tilt Trim Motor - 6260. Check the fluid level in the system and look for any leaks. I have recently purchased a boat with an E-Tec 200 HO in the US, and shipped it to Europe. If your trim relays are clicking but there is no sound from the trim motor, you either have burnt out relays, not sending 12V to the trim motor. Re: Trim and tilt not working? kwmagic. Okay, so your electric/hydraulic trim is messed up. The tilt trim was not working in my boat and my volvo penta SM outdrive was stuck in the down position. could be shorted out but not likely. Dealer also jumped the relay to insure trim motor was working. How to Fix Tilt Trim Not Working. So when you push the up button you should read voltage to there. 12-31-2011, 11:23 AM. 10 Oct 2010 #8 W. Warpa New member. It may have slipped out of position and thus preventing any tilt or trim. These tilt trim motors are marine grade, meeting SAEJ1171 and ISO8847 standards. Ok you need to check the fluid level and add fluid to the trim unit. Yamaha 90HP 2 Stroke (1997 TLRV) In preparation for boating attempted to raise motor by tilt/trim switch. Stick blue to negative, and green to positive, and what should happen is the trim motor should start to trim down. For whatever reason the tilt and trim is not erratic on my Merc 90 ELPTO two stroke. FLCoyote Posts: 271 Deckhand. I'm wondering if that's what is going on here. (856) 785 9455. If the outboard tilts part way up but not smoothly, or with a constant sound, there is probably air in the system due to low fluid. HELP !! . I found that there were a total of FOUR switches that control the trim on this boat. The next step is to go directly to the Motor and test it there. Bought 2 new relays this weekend, but not the problem. Hot to fix your tilt and trim. 11-30-2017, 08:15 PM. (856) 785 9455. The trim sender picks signals from the sender and forwards them to the trim gauge which then determines the state, balance, and efficiency of the boat. If either has blown the motor will not run. Trim rams may be seized. Latest: Jsnake4444. 06-12-2019, 02:14 AM. Joined 5 Sep 2010 Messages 624. There are roughly 4 really common failures that we see with these trim systems. If it does not trim down, the trim motor is confirmed bad. She runs beautifully, but last weekend I managed to stray a bit from the channel, thankfully at low speed, and hit some sea grass. The easiest way to tell which it is, is to disconnect the trim motor from the relays and jump it directly to a battery. Classifieds Node. Force grease into the grease fittings on the front of the swivel bracket. I was in your shoes last . More like a speedometer, the boat trim level gauges are designed to show the trim and or tilt . How to Check Trim Gauge. One time I replaced the relay and it would still not work. Tilt motor and see if it changes. 2012 DF115 Tilt and Trim Unresponsive. Step 1: Turn on boat. If the tilt and trim motor works fine but the engine won't raise or lower, slips down when in the raised position or won't stay trimmed, chances are that the problem is with the hydraulic pump or valve body assembly. The down switch always works. Hello. Remember this: CORROSION between the male relay terminals and the female relay terminal socket is the biggest problem. The best thing that you can do in this situation is to replace the relay in your unit, and the issue .. If if were the relay ($150,) gone bad then the trim would not be working at all. It's plastic with a slotted head to fit a standard screwdriver. This problem is not too rare, and you will eventually run into defective units from time to time. 2-cylinder models only, does not work with 3-cylinder outboards. Step 3: Lower motor to 'full DOWN' position. Check the tilt limit switch in the middle of the tilt axle. The Tilt/Trim motor on top of the the reservoir clicks but will not move the outdrive in either direction. You may have just wasted money on that new tilt/trim motor. If it is in the up position, apply power to the green wire reversing the Motor and . I checked every electrical line for damage and or corrosion and there were none. The manual release valve is the joker, the trickster of the tilt and trim system. Soleniods may have resistive contacts, what's the voltage at the motor? (8) 100% agree - Would recommend. Both tilt switches suddenly stopped working with the motor in the down position. yamaha has a fuse under motor cowling on port side down by the fuel pumps,it is in a water tight fues holder.also the relay is right there for your tilt and trim,and the start relay,check fuse ,check relay ,make sure your battery switched on, check for corrision on relay,it is start relay and tilt trim relay.Maybe this can . Power Tilt Trim Motor for OMC EVINRUDE Johnson 40 48 50 HP 6242 6243. That said, there are parts of the system that I still attend to on a . The unit will go down however. Motor sounded but could not lift engine. Issues with the tilt trim system on your boat can often be traced back to a faulty relay unit. Next test the solenoids by jumping them with a chunk of wire, again, make sure everything is clean. Designed to work with Johnson and Evinrude Two-Stroke outboards. The cure is to loosen one of the large tilt/steering nuts 1/2 turn, then with a 24 and a large hammer force the swivel bracket sideways slightly. This seems to occur a lot when the boats sit, unsued for a while. The 2003 Does Not have the trim limit switch. Running the engine shouldn't make any difference to the operation of the trim/tilt. Start by checking the hydraulic fluid reservoir level. All the ground wires mount on the starter mounts. The engine, at low RPM's, though, doesn't make a lot of juice so it's trying to compensate for a low/shot battery. The Difference Between Tilt & Trim. Tweet. newt: posted 05-19-2009 12:46 PM ET (US) Before you go and spend an hour troubleshooting connections, power supply and relays, try tapping the trim motor with a hammer - it may just solve your problem. They are the same part number for both up and down, I would suggest you get one and change it out. Tilt and trim motors fail occasionally, but luckily this is an easy fix. I BOUGHT A 2009 E-TEC 115HO NEW I HAVE HAD TO HAVE THE TILT TRIM UNIT REPLACE UNDER WARRANTY.AND HAD TO HAVE ONE FUEL INJECTOR . 12. Mercruiser tilt and trim repair. Ive got a 2003 yamaha t8 that im experiencing issues with. This can be caused by either pitting in the rams, which destroys the seals. Was able to lift the engine by hand while pressing 'up' switch and safety locked in place. Trim Gauge not responding. Mercruiser tilt/trim stopped working. 08-12-2017, 08:45 AM. It's positioned inside the engine bracket . Post Cancel. If any part of my answer is confusing, incomplete, or you need more detail on the issue. my tilt trim stopped working while cruising back to the dock. All brushes in the starter are clean. The best thing that you can do in this situation is to replace the relay in your unit, and the issue . 22 +/- 1/4 inches, then the trim limit switch is adjusted properly and the commander trim toggle switch is working in the up/down mode. Furuno 6 KW system with 62 mile range and open array #1942 600.00 OBO. Learn to replace you Evinrude ETEC Tilt & Trim Relay. 5 minutes ago. I was able to get the motor to raise by repeatetly hitting the trim up switch, moving . Last weekend I put it in the water, and noticed that the trim / tilt would work only when trimming the engine down, it does not work on up. Why is My Power Trim Gauge Not Working? She stalled once as I came completely off throttle . barnaclebillsmarine. it affected both lifting and lowering because it swapped polarity for the electricity feed to the trim motor. Re-install.and I bet you are good for another year. Upon lowering I was able to trim/tilt the motor up and down several times, although it ran noticeable slower than the starboard engine and audibly different. When I raise and lower the trim, the meter always stays at the bottom. It used to be tighter to the touch. Here's what I did to try and fix it: 1) I disconnected the helm trim switch, no change. Is simply a leaky seal on either the tilt or the trim rams. Step 2: Loosen screws on trim sending unit. You can adjust the trim so that the angle of your engine is down. 1997 Maxum 2400 SCR 5.7LX Bravo II Mike. The tilt trim wont go up and the switch in my boat did not do anything. If the distance is approx. There are two different kinds on the parts diagrams. Works the same at both the throttle control and the switch at the motor so I know the problem is not the switches. Brought to you by Barnacle Bill's Marine Supply. Check the manual release valve, located on the manifold, usually in the center of the manifold. Tilt and Trim-1990 40hp johnson. For the trim/tilt problem you are experiencing, if the wires from the limit switch (port side) and trim position sender (starboard side) are in good condition, they (Switch or sender) can be disassembled to clean out the old hardened grease. The up switch clicks distinctly but no response from the motor. Replace Relay. 2) I pressed the motor cowling trim switch up, the motor stopped running. As a dealer I used to see this a dozen times or more a year..usually in spring. #5. This problem is not too rare, and you will eventually run into defective units from time to time. 6. I trimmed the motor up and manually pushed the sender arm forward. Low fluid or loss of fluid is common, and indicates a leaking system. . 03-09-2016, 10:21 PM. You can remove the 4 screws out of the bottom of the football to reveal the switch wiring. (Especially for long term storage while the boat is in the water. Thanks to our factory direct relationship, you'll typically save up to 30% off retail OEM prices. CHECK OUT THESE HELPFUL RESOURCES FROM OUR BUYING GUIDE: 3 Components . Is the fluid level correct? 1. $62.99 New. (also used the manual screw on side) The 'down' command resulted in no movement but 'clicking . Long Range Fishing. not wanting to spend 120.00 labor and 100.00 for a used Step 1: Power the gauge. Locking Shallow Water Drive (Flip Switch) must be on the side of the motor not the front. I have a 2011 DF140. If all is well in the electrical portion of the trim/tilt system, proceed to the hydraulic sub-system. Wire wound and permanent magnet tilt/trim motors. In today's video, I will show you the weird noises my trim motor is making and how easy it is to fill your trim oil and get that trim. To ensure that this signal is properly conveyed, all the wiring for the trim sender must be intact. Common Solution. Fearing that ~ 40 minutes of running constantly may ruin the trim motor, I had to find a way to make it stop. 1. You will see it through a hole in the starboard clamp bracket. Number 18 is the cam that adjusts the up limit.